This Amplifier Goes To Fifty
by Marc Hirsh

originally published in Amplifier, September-October 2005

If God, or Darwin, or whoever made this crazy world, were as lazy as the animators for The Simpsons, the issue you were holding in your hands right now would be a lot different. That’s because your hands themselves would be a lot different, with four fingers on each instead of five, a quirk of nature that dominates the way we count things. Think about the base-8 number system to which two fewer fingers would lead us, rather than the base-10 system we currently use without thinking; our 50th issue would actually be our 40th issue, and that would just be too confusing for words. So thank your lucky stars for those two extra digits, unless you are Tony Iommi, in which case we appreciate you not forcing us to count by nines.

In any event, we here at Amplifier have decided to play the hands we were dealt and celebrate this milestone (50 issues! Can you stand it?) through the time-honored tactic of self-congratulation. We like to think that the artists we choose to spotlight are more than the flavors of the moment, and with that in mind, we have returned to several former Amplifier cover stars, all of whom have released new major-label albums within the past three months or so. We took a look at the paths their careers have taken since our magazine was wrapped in their faces and checked in with them to see how they navigated the shark-infested music industry when the majors that envelop them often just want to be their chum. While there was no consensus on how best to work the system to ensure longevity (responses ranged from mutual exploitation to resignation at having made a deal with the devil to optimistic enthusiasm to total apathy), there was a common thread: the bands we talked to had no substantial regrets about being on a major label (at least none they would cop to publicly). Another common thread: the ones on Capitol wish they could get half the push given to Coldplay. Who, for the record, were on the cover of Amplifier #23 in 2001. Don’t tell us we didn’t help.


Idlewild

Then: “I think really our goal is just to play in as many places as possible. We’re not craving a mass audience – obviously that would be good, but we just like playing.” (Rod Jones, Amplifer #36, May/June 2003)

When we last left Idlewild, they had just replaced bass player Bob Fairfoull with Gavin Fox, who was being broken in on the road as touring guitarist Allan Stewart was officially promoted to full-time group member. In the months following, the band toured the U.S. with Pearl Jam on the Riot Act tour and opened for the Rolling Stones in Glasgow (more recently, they played a number of dates with R.E.M. on this summer’s U.K. tour). Stewart and Fox made their recorded debuts with the group, now officially a quintet, on the new Warnings/Promises, which was released overseas in March. The five-month lag for the U.S. release is something of a trend for the band. “Our records have always had a delay, which is a bit frustrating,” says frontman Roddy Woomble, who immediately looks on the bright side. “But we’re happy that it’s getting to come out, you know? ’Cause it might not.” Like its predecessor, 2002’s The Remote Part, it entered the British album charts in the top ten and has placed several singles in the British Top 40.

The disparity between the band’s success in its home country and its relative underground nature everywhere else is something that Woomble has noticed but doesn’t seem to worry him too much. “In the U.K. we’re a lot more popular,” he says. “So we will play to three thousand people a night, and there’s a lot of young kids, like teenagers that are into the band, right up to 50-year-old couples that like ‘American English.’ Whereas in America, it’s much more specific. We play over-21 clubs and it’s full of people that have loads of records in their collection, lots of reference points, but still really like our band.” For Idlewild, the importance of being on a major label rests in the financial support for live performance. “It costs a lot of money for us to go to America and tour. Something, say, like a major label will be able to pay for you to do a couple of tours, as opposed to just doing one and skipping by. I know that for American bands, it’s a lot different. They can tour America and make money. Because it costs so much for us to get here and get our gear all shipped and stuff like that, to get to America… You don’t make any money on a tour, so you need someone to be able to subsidize it slightly. And a major label just gives you the opportunity to do that.” Overall, Woomble seems satisfied with the current state of affairs with the band, saying, “We’re in sort of a strange position because we’re a quite popular band but we’re by no means Coldplay or something like that. We’re halfway between kind of a cult band and halfway between this band that are popular with everyone. Which is a weird position to be in after ten years, but I’m not complaining.”


Black Rebel Motorcycle Club

Then: “I always feel that the band could be a lot bigger than what it is right now, but there’s something about B.R.M.C. that makes me think we’re always going to be on the undercurrent, on the low a little bit.” (Nick Jago, Amplifer #30, May/June 2002)

When we last left Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, drummer and British subject Nick Jago was in the midst of visa problems and the band was figuring out their next move after their 2000 debut B.R.M.C. Since then, the band released one more album on Virgin (2003’s Take Them On, On Your Own) before departing the label for parts unknown, working on their new Howl without the comfort of a record deal. “We did the album before we got involved even talking to record companies,” says guitarist and bassist Peter Hayes. “We did the album, then we handed it to them, and then a lot of people just said, well, ‘When are you go in and redo it? This sounds like the demo.’ And we said, ‘It’s not the demos, it’s the album.’ And then the people would say, ‘Well, is this the B-side album? When are you gonna go in and do the rock one?’ It’s like, ‘No, we want this album treated like an album.’ And a lot of people bowed out and RCA didn’t.” Switching labels wasn’t the only major change the band went through at this time. BRMC itself was in flux, as drummer Nick Jago quit the band, with Hayes and guitarist/bassist Robert Levon Been (who made his contribution to the shifting sands by dropping his stage name, Turner, and reverting to his given name) pressing on by themselves. Everything came full circle when Jago returned to the fold at the end of the recording sessions.

Despite the various changes, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club can thank its continued affiliation with the majors to connections they made at the label they left. “The funny thing is,” says Hayes, “the guy who signed us there, Ashley Newton, he was kind of the reason why we signed to Virgin Records. He got let go real soon after we had signed, and then he went to RCA. So he knows our history, as far as being difficult and not doing things that record companies see as something that we should be doing.” As for the band’s successful navigation through the dangerous waters of the music industry and the toll that it can take on a band, that seems to come from a dogged persistence that Hayes describes with a combination of pride and resignation. “If you got a bunch of shirts, that’s kind of where you make your dough. And the other way to do it is to stay in a band and do all the driving yourself, and do all the equipment yourself. That’s the only way you can make a living at it. So, there’s nothing easy about it. [laughs] And so you hang on, and there’s no in between… But you’re fucking playing music, you know what I mean? So none of that matters. None of that matters, you just carry on.”


OK Go

Then: “We’re not apolitical people, but our music so does not fundamentally address politics.” (Damian Kulash, Amplifer #33, November/December 2002)

When we last left OK Go, the Chicago band’s self-titled debut had just come out on Capitol. In the months following, the band traveled with like-minded power poppers Fountains Of Wayne, and got a lucky break when “Get Over It” was prominently featured in Madden NFL 2003. Singer and guitarist Damian Kulash says he realized the impact of that decision at a show in Louisville: “We started playing ‘Get Over It,’ and from the back of the room, some dude yells, ‘Touchdown!’” The rigors of their schedule eventually convinced guitarist Andy Duncan to leave the group. “He really just does not like touring,” says Kulash. “And after we finished the [new] record, he sort of sat back, looked at his future and was like, ‘Wait a minute, I’m gonna be on the road for two years with this again. I can’t do this.’ It was all a very pleasant breakup.” While Kulash claims that the new Oh No is no more political than the debut, the band has increased its political activity; during the last election, OK Go played at a John Kerry fundraiser and contributed a cover of the Zombies’ “This Will Be Our Year” that kicked off the Future Soundtrack For America compilation, while Kulash published a manifesto entitled How Your Band Can Fire Bush. Recently, Kulash and bass player Tim Nordwind have been appearing on Air America Radio’s “So What Else Is News?” Kulash’s profile, meanwhile, has been improved among the tween set, as he recently ranked #17 in Elle Girl’s “The Hot 50.” When we talked, he was appalled that Rupert Grint, Harry Potter’s Ron Weasley, ranked 13 spots above him.

Asked about the band’s relationship with Capitol, Kulash is very diplomatic, saying, “I’m not going to go on record saying a lot of shit about our label.” Still, he has a fair amount of sympathy for the position that major labels currently find themselves in. “What they own is a specific recording of a specific song, and they sell it to people, and people have to figure out if they can get that for free, and they actually figured out that they don’t even care about that that much. Music just isn’t what it used to be in that way, and labels are in a pretty tough position. Major labels especially, because they’re enormous tankers in the Arctic Circle. There are a lot of icebergs floating around and they’re not particularly agile ships, so they’re having a lot of trouble.” But he admits that OK Go hasn’t felt any sort of creative pressure from the label, even as he acknowledges his band’s position in the label hierarchy. “You can imagine how much more attention Coldplay gets around the offices of Capitol than OK Go does,” he says. “I mean, I would love to sell lots of records, we’d love to have lots of fans, but I do not envy the megacorporate world that Chris Martin must be living in right now while they’re dealing with this. We wanna survive by playing rock music, and the more people who listen to our music, the better, as far as I’m concerned. But I have no grand illusions that we are going to suddenly be a diamond-selling band.”


The Coral

Then: "We just have our way of doing it, really. Part of it, well, we don’t even know what it is. It just happens. And then part of it ... we don’t want to give too much away. It’d be boring if everyone knew. We’re too close to analyze it, really." (James Skelly, Amplifer #35, March/April 2003)

When we last left the Coral, their self-titled debut had just come out in the U.S. and the band was already at work on their second album. Since then, they’ve maintained a constant workload, averaging an album a year, although singer James Skelly is quick to point out, “We only did that third one [last year’s Nightfreak And The Sons Of Becker] in, like, two weeks. We’ve done three proper albums.” That steady stream of productivity has paid off in the band’s native England, where they’ve been repeat visitors to the album, singles and airplay charts (with several #1s under their belts) and have been up for multiple awards, including a number of Brit Award nominations and the 2003 Mercury Prize.

The Coral’s success in the U.K. means that the band’s future is generally secure, but it has also resulted in two distinct audiences. When asked about the difference in reception between British and American audiences, Skelly says, “We’ve done a bit in England, but we haven’t really done that well anywhere else to judge it, really. It’s usually quite small crowds everywhere else but England.” Still, Skelly doesn’t like to let those differences affect the band’s performance: “You can play a good gig, even if there’s only ten there.” Like fellow cover veterans Idlewild, the Coral’s recent album The Invisible Invasion has been out for several months in Britain and is only now getting an American release. Skelly admits that he’s not sure the reason for the delay. “It was the record company. They made them decisions, so I’m not too sure. I think they wanted to get a proper campaign or whatever ready for America. Needed more time or something. I don’t really know too much about that kind of stuff.” He adds, “I just think about music.”


The Dandy Warhols

Then: “You never finish a record, you just run out of money. You go a little bit over and then you’re done.” (Courtney Taylor-Taylor, Amplifer #22, January/February 2001)

When we last left the Dandy Warhols, Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia had bought them a ticket onto Late Night With Conan O’Brien, where they were well-received enough to be invited back just in time to have their episode cancelled by the multi-state blackout that struck the Northeast on August 14, 2003 (they rescheduled for the following night and hung out in NBC’s generator-powered – and thus air-conditioned – news studios until security kicked them out). The band shifted to the big screen with Dig!, which followed the Dandys and friends/apparent rivals the Brian Jonestown Massacre over the course of seven years (director Ondi Timoner won the 2004 Sundance Film Festival’s Grand Jury Prize for her efforts). Despite being the narrator, singer and guitarist Courtney Taylor-Taylor has mixed emotions about the film. When asked if he feels that the movie gave an accurate impression of his band, he doesn’t hesitate to say, “Not even remotely. And it certainly didn’t give an impression about what the [Brian] Jonestown Massacre is all about.” Still, he liked the movie, calling it “a great film,” adding “I wish it wasn’t me and Anton.” More recently, the song “We Used To Be Friends” (from 2003’s Welcome To The Monkey House) has been used as the theme song to the critically adored television show Veronica Mars, which means that low ratings aside, three million devoted fans get excited to hear the Dandy Warhols on a weekly basis.

Despite the fact that the band’s highest-charting album (Monkey House) peaked at #118 and Taylor-Taylor’s rant about his frustrations with Capitol on display in Dig!, the Dandy Warhols have used their major-label contract to establish a fair amount of autonomy both personal (“We all own a house, although I don’t live in mine yet,” says Taylor-Taylor. “I’m still having it worked on, so I live in a smaller apartment now than I did when we made Dandys Rule OK?”) and professional. The clearest manifestation of the latter is the Odditorium, the Portland rehearsal/studio space that the band owns. Taylor-Taylor gushes, “It’s probably the coolest art facility on the planet, in the entire world right now. I would wager that the Odditorium is by far the most extremely designed, exotic, cool, fucking whacked-out and fully functional artist’s studio, multi-media, basketball court, pool table, deck, barbecue on the roof, a restaurant-sized kitchen. We’ve had a Moroccan dining room, screening room, library, lounge. We can park a tour bus in the Odditorium and it will not disrupt anything going on in there.” And to stave off cynics, the Dandys can argue that their success came independently of their cinematic notoriety, as Taylor-Taylor (echoing guitarist Peter Holmstrom’s comments on the DVD) says with a laugh, “They estimate that a whopping 30,000 people in America saw Dig! in its theatrical release. It didn’t move mountains.”


My Morning Jacket

Then: “Our whole lives we’ve been reacting against fashion music and reacting against the idea of people playing music to be popular or because they’re bored. I think music is such a holy, important thing; it’s one of the most important forces we have on this earth. To treat it lightly and turn it into some bullshit game or fashion show gets old.” (Jim James, Amplifer #38, September/October 2003)

When we last left My Morning Jacket, they had just released It Still Moves, their third album and first major-label release, and had blown up in the Low Countries. “I’m still kind of baffled by it,” admits bass player Two Tone Tommy. “From the first time that we went over there, just being four naïve kids from Kentucky, we had no clue. We had no idea why these people liked our music or why they would wanna bring us over and watch us play our songs. There’s definitely a difference, obviously in culture and the way that people respond to music over there and the way that they seek out music.” Not long afterwards, My Morning Jacket went through some personnel changes that very nearly spelled the end of the band, as guitarist John Quaid and keyboardist Danny Cash left the group. “We really had to think about why we’re doing this or if it we wanted to continue doing this without them,” says Tommy, who says that he, Jim James (vocals and guitar) and Patrick Hallahan (drums) seriously thought about shutting down My Morning Jacket for good. “We just wanted to take some time off and have the holidays to ourselves, spend it with our families, and the whole time, we’re thinking, ‘Well, should we just do this as a three-piece band?’ Which we could’ve done. ‘Maybe we could change instruments live and really mix it up. Or not even do My Morning Jacket anymore, just start it as a whole new band. Or do we wanna bring new guys in, and do we even wanna play the five years of songs that we had?’ So it was definitely a serious consideration, and things just kind of worked out, as they always do with this band.” The addition of Carl Broemer on guitar and Bo Koster on keyboards solved the problem, and despite the distance between bandmembers – Tommy, James and Hallahan all live in Louisville, while Broemer lives in Nashville and Koster lives on the West Coast – the future of My Morning Jacket seems less in doubt these days.

For My Morning Jacket, moving on from original home Darla Records was borne out of necessity. “We had toured on At Dawn for two and half years, if not more,” says Tommy, “starting before the record even came out, and well after It Still Moves. After It Still Moves was recorded, we were still touring on At Dawn.” ATO Records seemed like an ideal solution, giving the band access to RCA’s distribution while allowing them to maintain control over their music. “That was the bigger reason that we chose ATO over whoever else, just that we had the freedom to still be able to record at the farm, record what we wanted to, do the artwork ourselves, choose who engineered the record or in this case who produced the record, where it was recorded. You know, all this stuff was still our decision to be made, and in the end, we still have final say on the whole process, which is the most important thing to us. It wasn’t about, ‘Well, how much money can we get off this?’ It was just, ‘Who’s gonna let us do what we’re doing now but maybe on a little bit of a larger scale?’”


Fountains Of Wayne

Then: “You want to make a record that has a shot at some commercial success, but personally, I tend to be completely wrong when I pick singles, and I tend to be surprised by what people react to, so I think the healthiest attitude is just to make a record you’re proud of and then put it out of your mind. That way, you’re pleasantly surprised if anything good happens with it.” (Adam Schlesinger, Amplifier #13, 1999)

When we last left Fountains Of Wayne, they were in the thick of Atlantic’s Utopia Parkway, their first album as an integrated four-piece band (guitarist Jody Porter and drummer Brian Young having joined after Fountains Of Wayne). Since then, they’ve released two albums and a boatload of singles while dipping their toes into the world of TV; they wrote and performed the theme songs to Comedy Central’s Crank Yankers and VH1’s never-aired (in the U.S., at least) Hey Joel. The band’s commercial breakthrough finally came with 2003’s Welcome Interstate Managers, which gave them their first Grammy nominations (including, rather famously, one for Best New Artist for the decade-old band’s third major-label album) and gold record, for the “Stacy’s Mom” single. “We also got some weird consolation gold thing for ‘Most Downloads’ or something,” says Schlesinger. “Which is basically saying, ‘If everyone had bought this instead of downloading it, you’d probably have a triple platinum album,’ but these days, it doesn’t always work like that.”

Despite switching record labels twice since their cover story (S-Curve ceased to exist entirely, causing parent company Virgin to inherit them in time for the new B-sides collection Out-Of-State Plates), Fountains Of Wayne is still going strong, with the band enough of a critic’s darling to garner a substantial amount of attention with each new release (Parkway and Managers both topped Entertainment Weekly’s “A Second Opinion” list in their respective years). One of the band’s secrets of survival (shared by sister band Ivy, for which Schlesinger also writes and plays a number of instruments) is licensing. “I think with Ivy it’s been especially important, because that’s been really our main source of income since we started the band, is people using our songs in TV shows and in movies and occasionally in commercials. But for both bands, it’s been a nice thing, and I think these days, it’s kind of an important avenue of exposure, because it’s so hard to get on the radio. You just always are trying to find ways for people to just hear your music… I think at this point especially, with TV shows and movies, we almost never say no to anything. Because I think that at this point, it’s almost just like another radio station, you know? If somebody hears your song playing in the background on some television show, it’s just like hearing it on the radio or something.”

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